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X-Fade
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 Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 5:56 am Post subject: iShop closes, DJs Unity's DJ certs are worthless |
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http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking+News/Singapore/Story/STIStory_384497.html
My friend is fuming with anger after learning from the above news that after paying almost up to $600 for his dj class with a cert, which was recognised by MDA, Rane DJ Corporation, a GM of i-shop and a certified experience DJ from a club, is now totally useless. All these tie-ups serves no purpose anymore since ishop closed down.
The sales tactics from DJs Unity seem sincere but really is devious and are smoke & mirrors, becus my fren was told it was a one to one, he enrolled only to realize he had a combine class of 8 student taught by a club dj and time-line was so draggy that students left after 1.5hr although it was stated 2.5hrs.
In additional, he was conned another $600 for its Turntablism class which again promises one-to-one lesson only to be shared with 4 other students. All the lessons were taught by Andrew Chow & Leonardo.
He was told by DJs Unity, if he attended this class conducted by the famous local dj, his chances of being a resident in this famous local dj's club is higher when he shows them the cert.
In addition to that, he was asked to perform his mixing in ishop's roadshow, was given false hope by the sales person that the Celebrity Guest who gave him the cert like a grad ceremony, the celebrity being Glen Ong by the way, was interested to hire him for a mix showcase at class95. But alas, all talk no action.
Now with the closure of ishop and the retrenchment (sorry redeployment for better term sake) of all its sales staff, my friend feels cheated by both the DJ instructors as well as the sales team.
So this serves as a warning to keen dj hobbyist that if the centre offers you a cert, which is recognised by MDA, Rane, a GM of i-shop and a certified experience DJ from a club, most likely it is a sales pitch that trys to grab your dollar more than anything else.
We can learn from people who offer classes such as DJing, tennis, snooker or watever but the passion, which is in us, drives us to greater heights and not some cert that is recognised by MDA, RANE, GM of Ishop and a certified DJ from a club, let alone given to us by Glen Ong.
Pls dun take my word for it, take the pic Glen Ong handing you the worthless cert as a proof,the bogus DJ graduation ceremony with models alongside all the vids/urls as proof of fraud practise by some DJs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znGEXAqrfNA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpzYBoMQMMQ
http://www.djsunity.com/djstuff/DJs_Unity/Photo_Gallery/Pages/DJ_Graduations.html
http://www.club21card.com/index.cfm?curr=ft_djCourse
Pioneer Endorsing the frauds and allowing them to use their space??: http://www.pioneer.com.sg/storefront2/ContentDetail/?ContentId=778
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cng5
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| Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:04 am Post subject: |
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Oh dear. A huge-ass can of worms has been opened.
But it's good to know about news like this. A timely warning for us to be careful about things like this. |
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VinylStylez
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| Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:04 am Post subject: |
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WOW, sial la,
56 Students since 2007 to 2009
56 X $600 = $33,600
iShop closing and not making a profit despite the $30k as added income from DJ fraudsters = EPIC FAIL & RETRENCHMENT |
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klanx
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| Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:48 am Post subject: |
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Caveat Emptor!
But seriously, did anyone attending these classes really think they were going to get something serious out of it? Like a job etc?
Either they knew nothing about the whole situation/scene or the sales pitch was pretty damm good.
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j.wong
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| Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:54 am Post subject: |
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 Since when certification is required in the entertainment industry? How many DJs have certification anyway? Friends who have audio engineering certifications and have gone for post/ pre/ mastering etc job interviews still lost out to peeps who have better experience in the same line. Looks like they found the wrong mentor and have been smoked by publicity.
Still young la. They were prob in the, "I want to be famous", mentality.
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klanx
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| Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:16 am Post subject: |
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TBH this is the first time I have even herd of DJ certification. Im not certified. 
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klanx
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| Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:34 am Post subject: |
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possibly not the same kinda certifacation, will need to see your cert, 
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Wilson
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| Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:21 am Post subject: |
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wow, whos that hottie in the 2nd pix? she's certified by me fho sho aigghhtt!  lol |
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Chainer
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| Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:47 am Post subject: |
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lawl. this is nonsense . eg. like having cert frm yamaha for guitar, drm lesson. you wont get job with that duh
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cng5
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| Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:50 am Post subject: |
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Caveat Emptor!
But seriously, did anyone attending these classes really think they were going to get something serious out of it? Like a job etc?
Either they knew nothing about the whole situation/scene or the sales pitch was pretty damm good. |
That's true too. I always thought such so-called certificates were more for displaying at home, like some sort of trophy.
I've never heard of anyone who had to present a certificate stating they were qualified DJs if they were looking for a job as a DJ! |
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cng5
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| Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:52 am Post subject: |
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| wow, whos that hottie in the 2nd pix? she's certified by me fho sho aigghhtt! lol |
If she wore a mask, she'd look even better!! |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:10 am Post subject: |
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| VinylStylez wrote: |
WOW, sial la,
56 Students since 2007 to 2009
56 X $600 = $33,600
iShop closing and not making a profit despite the $30k as added income from DJ fraudsters = EPIC FAIL & RETRENCHMENT |
LMAO....that amount can't even cover one month rent! |
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cng5
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| Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:15 am Post subject: |
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| VinylStylez wrote: |
WOW, sial la,
56 Students since 2007 to 2009
56 X $600 = $33,600
iShop closing and not making a profit despite the $30k as added income from DJ fraudsters = EPIC FAIL & RETRENCHMENT |
LMAO....that amount can't even cover one month rent! |
Still better than nothing!! 
They've got their money, they ought to be happy!! |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:26 am Post subject: |
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just coz they go to some I-shop course and get a cert means jack shit, seriously. what were the applicants hoping from that? Frankly I think anyone is better off spending $29 on How To DJ Right by Bill Brewster and Frank Broughton. just get a set of entry level stuff and then learn on your own lah...... or better still go to youtube and watch videos on how to do stuff musically. I still believe trial and error method is the best as opposed to classroom environments.
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firtthegreat
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| Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:31 am Post subject: |
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i think those suckas that paid for those courses just to get that "cert" would feel hard done by this...
all that cash spent,all that time wasted....for a worthles piece of paper 
still at least they got to learn sum usefull tricks... i hope 
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cng5
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Whether or not these certs were meant to prove something, I think it's fair to say that the kids doing the DJ course were mislead about the worthiness of the certs.
And if it can be proven so, that is really outright cheating on ishop's part.
Just my opinion on this. Will have to wait and see what happens next. |
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| And if it can be proven so, that is really outright cheating on ishop's part. |
yeah..thought so too..it seemed like they were fleecing people of their moolah in return for something thats worth f*ckall
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| And if it can be proven so, that is really outright cheating on ishop's part. |
yeah..thought so too..it seemed like they were fleecing people of their moolah in return for something thats worth f*ckall |
I know ishop isn't an MLM business, but for this DJ school business thing they ran, the tactics they used are quite similar to "Direct sales"/MLM marketing styles. |
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